{"id":35895,"date":"2019-10-05T15:30:48","date_gmt":"2019-10-05T13:30:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/?p=35895"},"modified":"2021-10-22T00:38:04","modified_gmt":"2021-10-21T22:38:04","slug":"greta-thunberg-silkesvantar-av","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunberg-silkesvantar-av\/","title":{"rendered":"Greta Thunberg &#8211; Silkesvantar av"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Nedanst\u00e5ende \u00e4r synnerligen viktigt med tanke p\u00e5 den st\u00e4ndiga diskussionen om att Greta Thunberg inte kan eller f\u00e5r kritiseras pga hennes \u00e5lder och autism, etc, och med tanke p\u00e5 vilka stora negativa konsekvenser Greta-organisationen och hennes f\u00f6ljare kan f\u00e5 f\u00f6r alla parter.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>F\u00f6rst g\u00f6mmer sig ett inte s\u00e5 litet antal m\u00e4nniskor bakom Greta Thunberg (d\u00e4r en del av dessa personer nu identifierats).<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Sedan g\u00f6mmer sig Greta Thunberg bakom frasen &#8221;Listen to the science&#8221;. Dvs hon s\u00e4ger direkta felaktigheter samt ett stort antal konstigheter som starkt kan ifr\u00e5gas\u00e4ttas, och d\u00e4refter vill Greta \u00e5beropa immunitet och r\u00e4ttf\u00e4rdiga allt hon s\u00e4ger med att vi ska lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna&#8230; som om att forskarna skulle backa upp hennes k\u00e4nslor.<\/strong><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Till dags dato s\u00e5 har inte en enda forskare i hela v\u00e4rlden tr\u00e4tt fram och backat upp en endaste mening som Greta Thunberg sagt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Detta s\u00e4tt att anv\u00e4nda Greta som en sk\u00f6ld, d\u00e4r Greta sedan anv\u00e4nder frasen &#8221;<em>Lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna<\/em>&#8221; som en sk\u00f6ld f\u00f6r alla sina ogrundade k\u00e4nslor och faktabefriade tal \u00e4r p\u00e5 intet s\u00e4tt acceptabelt.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Domedags-Greta exploateras som ett politiskt redskap och attackerar sina meningsmotst\u00e5ndare, men vi ska inte ha r\u00e4tt att uttrycka v\u00e5r mening?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det \u00e4r ingen \u00e4nde p\u00e5 galenskaperna, och nu f\u00e5r vi en rad rubriker i mainstream media till i sakfr\u00e5gan helt okritiska artiklar om hur synd det \u00e4r om Greta Thunberg. Senast i dagens Expressen, med rubriken &#8221;<strong><em>Greta Thunberg om hatet<\/em><\/strong>&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>GRETA M\u00c5STE TA ANSVAR F\u00d6R SINA ORD OCH HANDLINGAR<\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta \u00e4r 16 \u00e5r, och vi ska vara sn\u00e4lla mot henne inom rimliga gr\u00e4nser, men hon \u00e4r de facto straffmyndig och om bara lite mer \u00e4n ett \u00e5r \u00e4r hon myndig fullt ut. Det finns ingen anledning att vi stillasittande ska tolerera vilka dumheter som helst. Speciellt inte n\u00e4r dessa <strong>riskerar att styra politiken i en f\u00f6r alla f\u00f6r\u00f6dande riktning<\/strong>.<\/span><!--OBS! Nedanst\u00e5ende \u00e4r viktigt, d\u00e4r fler kommenterat Greta Thunbergs utspel och medias --><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Nedanst\u00e5ende (delvis h\u00e4mtat fr\u00e5n en Youtube-video, som l\u00e4nkas till l\u00e4ngre ner) \u00e4r <strong>grunden f\u00f6r all diskussion om Greta och hennes organisation<\/strong>!<\/span><br \/>\n<img class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/greta_thunberg_listen_to_the_science.jpg\" alt=\"Greta Thunberg s\u00e4ger att vi ska lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna\/vetenskapen\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Existentiell kris? Inget st\u00f6d i forskningen!<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta Thunberg [ibl kallad &#8221;<em>Toon burgers<\/em>&#8221;] :<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; We are now facing existential crisis, the <strong>climate crisis and ecological crisis<\/strong>&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Intressant att &#8221;<em><strong>milj\u00f6krisen<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; helt fallit bort fr\u00e5n ekvationen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; &#8230; which has never been treated as <strong>crisis<\/strong> before.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Kan det kanske bero p\u00e5 att det inte funnits och inte finns n\u00e5gon klimatkris\/ekologisk kris i den omfattning som Greta tror?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>KOPPLING MELLAN KLIMAT OCH EKOLOGISK KRIS?<\/strong><br \/>\nVad g\u00e4ller det som Greta kallar f\u00f6r den &#8221;<em>ekologiska krisen<\/em>&#8221; s\u00e5 beror den (bortsett fr\u00e5n den naturliga &#8221;<em>ekologiska krisen<\/em>&#8221; som \u00e4r helt frist\u00e5ende fr\u00e5n m\u00e4nniskan) prim\u00e4rt p\u00e5 befolknings\u00f6kningen och m\u00e4nniskans utbredning. Men genom att uttrycka sig som Greta g\u00f6r s\u00e5 luras obildade m\u00e4nniskor till att tro att det finns en koppling mellan m\u00e4nniskodriven klimatp\u00e5verkan och &#8221;<em>ekologisk kris<\/em>&#8221;. Inte ett enda av v\u00e4rldens v\u00e4nstervridna medier vill korrigera Gretas felaktigheter, vilket inneb\u00e4r att bara de som googlar sig fram till vad forskarna s\u00e4ger f\u00e5r sanningen.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>RESURSER M\u00c5STE G\u00c5 TILL DET VI KAN P\u00c5VERKA<\/strong><br \/>\nDen bistra verkligheten \u00e4r att klimatet (precis som naturkatastrofer) kan m\u00e4nniskan p\u00e5verka v\u00e4ldigt, v\u00e4ldigt lite. Milj\u00f6n kan vi emellertid p\u00e5verka. Det \u00e4r d\u00e4r vi ska l\u00e4gga v\u00e5ra resurser, med h\u00f6gsta prioritet p\u00e5 det som Greta og\u00e4rna vill prata om; utsl\u00e4ppen av prim\u00e4rt plast i haven via <a title=\"Milj\u00f6partiets plastskatt f\u00f6r dem som inte sl\u00e4pper ut plast i haven\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/miljopartiets-plastskatt-for-dem-som-inte-slapper-ut-plast-i-haven\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">tio floder i Asien och Afrika<\/a>.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Encyclopedia Britannica: &#8221;<em>History of environmental movement concern for the impact on human life of problems such as air and water pollution <strong>dates to at least Roman times<\/strong>.<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And for way too long the politicians and <strong>people in power have gotten away with not doing anything<\/strong> at all to fight the <strong>climate crisis and ecological crisis<\/strong>. But we will make sure that they will not get away with it any longer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Everyone of her statements is extreme to the extreme. This is a 16 year old looking at the world in these completely extreme terms; <strong>Nobody has ever thought of this before me, she thinks. Nobody is ever doing anything, Everone is getting away with everything<\/strong>, right now.<\/p>\n<p>* What are the adults doing to help her grow in this manner? They&#8217;re not helping her at all. Instead they&#8217;re pushing her along, they&#8217;re propping her up, because <strong>her ideas match up with their ideas and agenda<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>* Using this girl as cannon fodder actually <strong>weakens their argument by throwing the argument into a domain where no argument can actually happen<\/strong>. Where no <strong>change of stance<\/strong> can occur organically, but <strong>must be enforced by brute force by the ideologues<\/strong>. By autoritarians who<strong> tell you what to think, what opinion is the right one<\/strong>. And if you disagree with this opinion, well&#8230; we have this camp over here for you to live in while we go forth and solve the problems of the world.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Till Expressen (och den fr\u00e5n Youtube k\u00e4nda journalisten <a title=\"UNICEF och media uts\u00e4tter Greta Thunberg f\u00f6r barnmisshandel\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/unicef-och-media-utsatter-greta-thunberg-for-barnmisshandel\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tomas Kvarnkullen<\/a> som st\u00e4llde ledande fr\u00e5gor till Greta som Greta inte ville\/kunde svara p\u00e5) s\u00e4ger Greta om USA;<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; Det \u00e4r n\u00e4stan inget som g\u00f6rs f\u00f6r att stoppa <strong>klimatkrisen<\/strong> och det \u00e4r framf\u00f6r allt unga som leder <strong>kampen mot klimatkrisen<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Konkreta f\u00f6rslag f\u00f6r klimatet fr\u00e5n Gretas anh\u00e4ngare<\/span>:<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/1DWBR-ipDuI\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Detta \u00e4r vad de som demonstranter f\u00f6r Greta anser m\u00e5ste g\u00f6ras f\u00f6r klimatet:<\/span><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ARWkcZ74OJQ\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>\u00c4r Greta kvalificerad att styra v\u00e4rlden?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Organisationen &#8221;<em>Democracy Now<\/em>&#8221;:<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; Let me ask you about <!--in New York Times op-ed piece -->a column in New York Times that was written by Christopher Caldwell. It&#8217;s headlined; &#8221;<strong><em>The Problem With Greta Thunberg\u2019s Climate Activism, Her radical approach is at odds with democracy<\/em><\/strong>&#8221;. Caldwell writes; &#8221;<em>Normally Ms. Thunberg would be unqualified to debate in a democratic forum<\/em>&#8221;. Greta Thunberg, if you can respond to Christopher Caldwell.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; There&#8217;s nothing I can say to them. <strong>Just unite behind the science.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Vilken vetenskap???<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det h\u00e5ller inte att alltid bara rent allm\u00e4nt referera till en p\u00e5st\u00e5dd vetenskap, som substitut till sakliga argument.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><br \/>\nDet ska noteras att kvinnan som intervjuar Greta h\u00e4r har visat sig h\u00f6ra till den &#8221;<em>inre Greta-kretsen<\/em>&#8221; och som s\u00e5dan givits tillst\u00e5nd att intervjua Greta i f\u00f6rvissningen om att inga konkreta fr\u00e5gor skulle st\u00e4llas. Greta f\u00e5r bara k\u00e4nslofr\u00e5gor. Aldrig faktafr\u00e5gor. P\u00e5 motsvarande grund fick Skavlan intervjua Greta, eftersom det garanterades att ingen fr\u00e5ga skulle st\u00e4llas om n\u00e5got som var relevant.<\/span><br \/>\n<img class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/greta_thunberg_democracy_now.jpg\" alt=\"Greta Thunberg intervjuas av Democracy Now\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Varf\u00f6r s\u00e4ger Greta att vi INTE ska lyssna p\u00e5 henne?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; <strong>I&#8217;m not the one who&#8217;s saying these things.<\/strong> <strong>I&#8217;m not the one who we should be listening to<\/strong>, and I say that all the time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det h\u00e4r g\u00e5r inte alls ihop;<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Vem \u00e4r det som s\u00e4ger Gretas ord om inte Greta?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Varf\u00f6r h\u00e5ller Greta alla dessa tal och intervjuer om hon inte vill att vi ska lyssna p\u00e5 henne?<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna? Som s\u00e4ger vad?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; I say we need to <strong>listen to the scientists<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det st\u00e4mmer att Greta hela tiden s\u00e4ger att vi ska lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna, men;<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Vilka forskare? Vilken av forskarna ska vi lyssna p\u00e5, mer specifikt?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Vad, rent konkret, ska vi lyssna p\u00e5? Vad s\u00e4ger forskarna om vad?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 <strong>Varf\u00f6r vill Greta sj\u00e4lv inte lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna?<\/strong><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\"><br \/>\n\u2022 Varf\u00f6r finns det inte en enda av de nu s\u00e4kert hundratals journalister som intervjuat Greta, som st\u00e4llt fr\u00e5gor likt de tre ovan? Dvs de enda fr\u00e5gor som i realiteten \u00e4r relevanta!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Bara f\u00f6r att man hela tiden upprepar &#8221;<em>Listen to the science<\/em>&#8221; s\u00e5 f\u00f6rtar det inte p\u00e5 n\u00e5got s\u00e4tt vad man sj\u00e4lv s\u00e4ger.<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det skulle i s\u00e5 fall inneb\u00e4ra att vem som helst &#8211; Ant\u00f3nio Guterres, Stefan L\u00f6fven. President Trump, <a title=\"Se USA-demokraternas stj\u00e4rnskott Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez i AOC's Greatest Hits!\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=OFwKTghsiD8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">AOC<\/a>, etc &#8211; skulle kunna s\u00e4ga precis vad som helst och sedan komma undan allt ansvar och alla fr\u00e5gor bara genom att avsluta varje mening med; &#8221;<em>Lyssna p\u00e5 forskarna<\/em>&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Har Greta v\u00e4ntat t\u00e5lmodigt sedan 15 \u00e5r innan hon f\u00f6ddes?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; And he ends by saying that we have to wait&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; Yeah, we have waited 30 years and I think we have been patient, and me waiting and seeing in 30 years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det blir komiskt att h\u00f6ra detta p\u00e5st\u00e5ende fr\u00e5n n\u00e5gon som bara levt under halva denna tidsperiod.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det har h\u00e4nt v\u00e4ldigt, v\u00e4ldigt mycket under de 15 f\u00f6rsta \u00e5ren, och \u00e4nnu mycket mer under \u00e5ren sedan Greta f\u00f6ddes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Om Greta g\u00e5tt i skolan ist\u00e4llet f\u00f6r att skolka fr\u00e5n lektionerna skulle hon kunnat l\u00e4ra sig om hur mycket som uppn\u00e5tts i v\u00e4rlden s\u00e5v\u00e4l innan hon f\u00f6ddes som efter\u00e5t.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Vad \u00e4r problemet? Vad \u00e4r akut?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And I think it&#8217;s time to&#8230; to actually realize <strong>the urgency of the problem<\/strong> and to&#8230; to <strong>do something<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Men vad \u00e4r &#8221;<em>problemet<\/em>&#8221;, och varf\u00f6r skulle det vara s\u00e5 akut?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">G\u00f6ra vad \u00e5t vad?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Very apparently<!-- the person who has a fear of iron in her bloodstream or has snacking on kale for the last 20 years--> <strong>the host of this pogram is feeding Greta a certain sort of line<\/strong>. She wants Greta to talk about action.<br \/>\n* <strong>Science is not about prescription, it&#8217;s about description.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* The line that the host wants Greta to get to is that we need to act right now. We need to have a lot of urgency.<\/p>\n<h3>Forskarna s\u00e4ger INTE vad Greta s\u00e4ger!<\/h3>\n<p>* Greta Thunberg is saying; Don&#8217;t listen to me because I&#8217;m not saying anything, I&#8217;m only telling you what the scientists are saying.<\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Problemet \u00e4r att Greta s\u00e4ger mycket, men v\u00e4ldigt lite \u00e4r r\u00e4tt&#8230; och sedan sl\u00e4nger hon lite h\u00e4r och var in; &#8221;<em>Listen to the science<\/em>&#8221;, utan att ens kunna redog\u00f6ra f\u00f6r vad forskarna s\u00e4ger.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* She claims it&#8217;s the scientists who are saying act right now. But <strong>it&#8217;s Greta who&#8217;s saying this<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det \u00e4r definitivt inte vetenskapsm\u00e4nnen som s\u00e4ger att &#8221;<em>vi<\/em>&#8221; m\u00e5ste agera nu. Det \u00e4r Gretas egna ord, baserat p\u00e5 inget annat \u00e4n hennes personliga k\u00e4nslor!<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>De som h\u00e5ller p\u00e5 Greta \u00e4r i klar minoritet<\/h3>\n<p>* Democracy is <strong>founded on argumentation<\/strong>, but this is what &#8221;Democracy Now&#8221; and Greta have to say about argumentation;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; It may schock people to hear that you&#8217;re getting slammed on Twitter, also <strong>praised to the heavens by millions of people<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Notera hur den s k journalisten vinklar ovanst\u00e5ende mening. Hon dristar sig sig till att h\u00e4vda att miljoner m\u00e4nniskor hyllar Greta. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det \u00e4r ett intressant p\u00e5st\u00e5ende med tanke p\u00e5 att vem som helst kan g\u00e5 ut p\u00e5 Youtube och se verkligheten. <strong>I ungef\u00e4r 95% av de Youtube-videos som \u00e4r positivt inst\u00e4llda till Greta och hennes organisation s\u00e5 \u00e4r det fler tummen ner \u00e4n tummen upp.<\/strong> F\u00f6r Youtube-videos som \u00e4r negativt inst\u00e4llda till Greta g\u00e4ller det omv\u00e4nda, d\u00e4r \u00e4r det i ca 99% av fallen fler tummen upp \u00e4n tummen ner.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Varf\u00f6r h\u00e5ller vi inte med Greta?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; But what do you think that means when you get slammed?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; I mean you could see it in different ways. Of course it&#8217;s <strong>sad that people spend the time doing this when they could be doing something good instead<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta, du har givits extremt unika m\u00f6jligheter att g\u00f6ra n\u00e5got bra ist\u00e4llet, varf\u00f6r g\u00f6r du inte det?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* How does she have the special capacity to have value in this argument, when everybody else who has a different opinion than her doesn&#8217;t? What gives her the standing to say that?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; You can also see it as something positive that <strong>it means that you have an impact<\/strong>. That these people feel like they <strong>feel threatened by you<\/strong>. And <strong>that means you have made a difference<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Nej Greta, att m\u00e4nniskor &#8211; med sunt f\u00f6rnuft och logiskt t\u00e4nkande samt med en kunskap och insikt som du som 16-\u00e5ring tyv\u00e4rr saknar &#8211; inte h\u00e5ller med dig, \u00e4r absolut <strong>inte samma sak som att du gjort n\u00e5gon skillnad<\/strong>. Du ska nog inte tro p\u00e5 allt vad mamma s\u00e4ger till dig.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Att man inte h\u00e5ller med en person \u00e4r alls <strong>inte samma sak som att man k\u00e4nner sig hotad av denna person<\/strong>. Det \u00e4r ologiskt mumbojumbo som n\u00e5gon tutat i dig, Greta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>SKA GRETA TAS SERI\u00d6ST?<\/strong><br \/>\nGreta har sj\u00e4lv medvetet f\u00f6rsatt sig i den vuxna politiska v\u00e4rlden. D\u00e4rmed har hon sj\u00e4lv &#8211; liksom hela hennes bakomliggade organisation &#8211; insisterat p\u00e5 att hela vuxenv\u00e4rlden ska ta henne lika seri\u00f6st som f\u00f6r varje vuxen m\u00e4nniska. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Om man f\u00f6ruts\u00e4tter att de som h\u00e5ller med Greta tar henne seri\u00f6st m\u00e5ste man ocks\u00e5 r\u00e4kna med att de som inte h\u00e5ller med Greta ocks\u00e5 tar henne seri\u00f6st, och s\u00e5lunda behandlar Greta som vuxen.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">De som kritiserar Greta visar betydligt mer respekt f\u00f6r Greta \u00e4n hennes supportrar som gullar med henne och s\u00e4ger att vi inte ska prata om henne eftersom det kan skada hennes k\u00e4nslor, hon \u00e4r ju bara ett barn.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Vad har Greta-organisationen uppn\u00e5tt?<\/h3>\n<p><img src=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/greta_thunberg_attacker.jpg\" alt=\"Verbala attacker mot Greta Thunberg p\u00e5 Internet\" \/><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And I think <strong>this movement has made a difference<\/strong>. Otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t be spending their time trying to <strong>discredit us and to mock us<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta, vad tror du att du uppn\u00e5tt?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta, varf\u00f6r tror du att enda sk\u00e4let till att man argumenterar emot dig \u00e4r att du och dina klimataktivister skulle ha gjort n\u00e5gon skillnad?<br \/>\nVi argumenterar emot dig f\u00f6r att du har fel, och i motsats till dig s\u00e5 besitter vi sakliga argument samt fakta.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Her perspective on life is so small that she thinks she&#8217;s actually made a difference when<strong> all she&#8217;s done is make headlines<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>* Her perspective is such that she doesn&#8217;t understand, she doesn&#8217;t have the context in which to operate on like what has actually happened, other than <strong>people talking about her<\/strong>, which actually isn&#8217;t action.<br \/>\n* Furhermore, using that argument, that metric, to say that anybody that&#8217;s talking about her is wasting their time, or isn&#8217;t doing anything, is somehow proving her point that she is doing something.<br \/>\n* <strong>Being disagreed with doesn&#8217;t mean that you&#8217;re actually standing in the right position. Being disagreed with doesn&#8217;t in itself prove your point.<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>&#8221;Attacker&#8221; mot Greta?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; I&#8217;d like to talk more about the attack on climate activists. I want to turn to the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCR), Michelle Bachelet, the former president of Chile, talking about the <strong>attacks on climate activists, including you<\/strong>.<\/span><br \/>\n<img class=\"aligncenter\" title=\"UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCR), Michelle Bachelet\" src=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/greta_thunberg_unhcr.jpg\" alt=\"UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCR), Michelle Bachelet, f.d. president i Chile f\u00f6rsvarar Greta Thunberg\" \/><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Michelle Bachelet, UNHCR:<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&gt; The office and Special Rapporteurs have noted attacks on <strong>environmental human rights offenders<\/strong> in <strong>virtually every region<\/strong>, particularly in Latin America.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">H\u00e4r skulle man \u00f6nskat en liten f\u00f6rklaring till sammans\u00e4ttningen av orden &#8221;<em>environmental human rights offenders<\/em>&#8221;.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Givetvis f\u00e5r vi inte heller n\u00e5gon f\u00f6rklaring till vad det skulle vara f\u00f6r attacker, eler fr\u00e5n vem, eller vad som menas med &#8221;<em>praktiskt taget varenda region<\/em>&#8221;, enligt vilka fakta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Personligen tycker jag all form av fysiskt v\u00e5ld \u00e4r nedsl\u00e5ende. Inklusive om det skulle riktas mot klimataktivister, \u00e4ven om jag aldrig l\u00e4st eller h\u00f6rt talas om n\u00e5got som skulle bekr\u00e4fta detta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&gt; And also by the <strong>verbal attacks on young activists such as Greta Thunberg<\/strong> and others who galvanized support for prevention of the harm their generation may bear. <strong>The demands made by environmental defenders and activists are compelling.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Verbala attacker p\u00e5 Greta? Men inte ett endaste exempel ges. Vad som \u00e5syftas \u00e4r det som skrivits p\u00e5 sociala medier, d\u00e4r det finns vissa som uttryckt sig mindre lyckat, men <strong>som varje normal m\u00e4nniska bara kan ignorera om s\u00e5 \u00f6nskas. Dvs precis s\u00e5 som Greta Thunberg gjort<\/strong>.<br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Hur \u00e4r kraven fr\u00e5n &#8221;<em>milj\u00f6f\u00f6rsvarare<\/em>&#8221; och aktivister \u00f6verv\u00e4ldigande och vilken relevans har det f\u00f6r vad?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&gt; I mean, I am disheartened by this violence.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Bara aktivister som ska ha r\u00e4ttigheter?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&gt; We should respect, protect and fulfill their rights.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">F\u00f6r att f\u00e5 respekt m\u00e5ste man f\u00f6rst f\u00f6rtj\u00e4na respekt!<br \/>\nVad \u00e4r det f\u00f6r r\u00e4ttigheter som inte respekterats, skyddats och uppfyllts f\u00f6r aktivisterna?<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Borde vi inte respektera, skydda och uppfylla allas r\u00e4ttigheter? Inte bara s k &#8221;<em>aktivisters<\/em>&#8221;, utan <strong>\u00e4ven aktivisternas meningsmotst\u00e5ndare?<\/strong> Varf\u00f6r ska just vi inte ha n\u00e5gra r\u00e4ttigheter?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Because their arguments are compelling (under what metric are we deciding what&#8217;s compelling?) their rights should be defended? <strong>Their rights should be defended regardless of if their arguments are compelling or not.<\/strong><br \/>\n*<!--But (being disagreed with are)--> <strong>Being protected from disagreement is not a right.<\/strong> It should at least not be a right in any democratic framework.<\/p>\n<p>* How did &#8221;<em>Democracy Now<\/em>&#8221; start to enshrine such very undemocratic behavior as saying that if you disagree with us you should be kicked out of the conversation? I&#8217;m not saying that they&#8217;re saying that, but it sure sounds like they&#8217;re going down that road.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Som n\u00e5gon sa;<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Om du inte kan f\u00f6rsvara din position, marschera barn till frontlinjen och utmana dina motst\u00e5ndare att attackera dem.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h3>Varf\u00f6r ska aktivister vara &#8221;untouchables&#8221;?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; Greta, if you can talk about what Michelle Bachelet said. She singled you out and talking about climate activists and attacks on them, but <strong>so many climate activists feel under siege<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Jag har aldrig l\u00e4st eller h\u00f6rt talas om en enda klimataktivist som k\u00e4nt sig det minsta besv\u00e4rad (\u00e4ven om s\u00e4kert en hel del av dem h\u00f6r till det l\u00e4ttkr\u00e4nkta folket). Var f\u00e5r denna journalist alla sina id\u00e9er fr\u00e5n?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; Yes, <strong>many climate and environmental activists are being attacked<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Var? N\u00e4r? Hur m\u00e5nga? Varf\u00f6r \u00e4r det i s\u00e5 fall tyst i media om dessa, trots att media aldrig dragit sig f\u00f6r att t o m hitta p\u00e5 dylika historier.<\/span><!--Hur vet Greta detta?--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And they are being, in some cases, even <strong>killed<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Ja, om man l\u00e4ser v\u00e4nsterextrema medier som i sin tur refererar till v\u00e4nsterextremisters p\u00e5st\u00e5enden s\u00e5 s\u00e4gs det att <strong>klimataktivister och milj\u00f6aktivister &#8211; tv\u00e5 typer av aktivister som inte delar samma intresse &#8211;<\/strong> m\u00f6rdats i vissa mindre utvecklade l\u00e4nder. Men fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r mycket mer komplicerad \u00e4n s\u00e5 och sanningen \u00e4r definitivt inte den som man f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker ge sken av!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u00c4r det rimligt att alla kritiker till klimatextremister f\u00f6rses med munkavle bara f\u00f6r att enstaka personer beter sig illa?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* It&#8217;s suspicios that they bring up that people have been killed without going into that story so we can examine the story. They just use the weight of murder in order to increase your moral standing.<\/p>\n<h3>Varf\u00f6r vill Greta att vi inte ska fokusera p\u00e5 vad hon s\u00e4ger?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; So, I&#8217;m not the one who we should be focusing on in these cases.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Det \u00e4r helt och h\u00e5llet Greta sj\u00e4lv, och hennes organisation, som placerar Greta i rampljuset, d\u00e4r hon inte presenterar n\u00e5gra fakta mer \u00e4n enstaka s\u00e5dana fr\u00e5n <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ipcc.ch\/sr15\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">IPCC<\/a>, samt p\u00e5st\u00e5dda fakta i form av meningar tagna ur sitt sammanhang fr\u00e5n oredovisade k\u00e4llor. Allts\u00e5 per definition fake news.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>Vad ska vi ta f\u00f6r givet?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; It&#8217;s just horrible that you are trying to stand up for something which<!-- that--> <strong>should be taken for granted<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Vad \u00e4r det vi borde ta f\u00f6r givet, och varf\u00f6r ska vi ta det f\u00f6r givet bara f\u00f6r att Greta tycker s\u00e5?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* Is it horrible that when you try to <strong>stand up for something that YOU think is right, but other people disagree with you<\/strong>? How is that horrible? That&#8217;s democracy. <strong>That&#8217;s actually how you prove your point and learn the flaws in your own point.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta Thunbergs samr\u00f6re med de obildade extremisterna i den subversiva organisationen Extinction Rebellion \u00e4r i sig en stark varningssignal.<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Extinction Rebellion kr\u00e4ver;<\/span><br \/>\n1. Declare a climate and ecological emergency <span style=\"color: #800000;\">[i strid med forskarnas \u00e5sikt]<\/span><br \/>\n2. Reduce carbon emissions to zero by 2025 <span style=\"color: #800000;\">[vilket \u00e4r en teknisk om\u00f6jlighet och inte kan uppn\u00e5s ens om man skulle st\u00e4nga ner 100% av all fossildriven verksamhet i landet]<\/span><br \/>\n3. The government is to be led by decisions of a citizen assembly on climate and ecological justice <span style=\"color: #800000;\">[vilket \u00e4r ett helt obegripligt krav som inneb\u00e4r att det demokratiska samh\u00e4llet raseras]<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>Manegen var redan krattad f\u00f6r Greta-organisationen<\/strong> n\u00e4r de drog ig\u00e5ng. Det ska v\u00e4ldigt lite till f\u00f6r att &#8211; med st\u00f6d av inte bara Sveriges utan v\u00e4rldens starkt v\u00e4nstervridna medier &#8211; engagera sammanh\u00e4ngande och subversiva grupper med l\u00e4ttmanipulerade och l\u00e5gutbildade m\u00e4nniskor som;<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Extinction Rebellion<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 The Green New Deal<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 World New Order<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 We Don&#8217;t Have Time<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 V\u00e4nsterextremister<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u2022 Antifa<\/span><br \/>\n<!--<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/BgRoiTWkBHU\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>-->[Videoklipp h\u00e4r har censurerats bort av Youtube].<\/p>\n<h3>H\u00e5nad och &#8221;attackerad&#8221; p\u00e5 Internet<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And living world, and functioning climates, and it&#8217;s just <strong>unbelievable to see what some people have to go through<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom: <span style=\"color: #800000;\">Som vad?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; And of course I know many many activists, young activists especially, that are being attacked on the Internet and are being lied about and being mocked. Sometimes by elected officials and by respected journalists and I don&#8217;t understand how, how you can attack someone like that and I mean sometimes these, these activists they <strong>get sad<\/strong> because of it, and that of course impacts them in a way that they feel like they, they can not continue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom: <a name=\"snowflakes\"><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">V\u00e4x upp, sn\u00f6flingor!<br \/>\nOm ni inte kan ta debatten f\u00e5r ni nog \u00e4gna er \u00e5t n\u00e5got ni beh\u00e4rskar ist\u00e4llet.<\/span><br \/>\n<div style=\"width: 640px;\" class=\"wp-video\"><!--[if lt IE 9]><script>document.createElement('video');<\/script><![endif]-->\n<video class=\"wp-video-shortcode\" id=\"video-35895-1\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" preload=\"metadata\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"video\/mp4\" src=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/snowflake.mp4?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/snowflake.mp4\">https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/snowflake.mp4<\/a><\/video><\/div><br \/>\n<!--<span style=\"color: #800000;\">En liten sn\u00f6flinga:<\/span>\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\">\n\n\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">Shortest revolution ever <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/0KTxkqQOz8\">pic.twitter.com\/0KTxkqQOz8<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\u2014 Denlesks (@Denlesks) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Denlesks\/status\/1120885362350444546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 24, 2019<\/a><\/blockquote>\n\n\n<script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>--><\/p>\n<p><strong>V\u00c4DJAN TILL SYMPATI F\u00d6R ATT F\u00d6RA FRAM SIN AGENDA<\/strong><br \/>\n* Should<!-- all these--> elected officials and journalists suspend suspicion and any form of sarcasm<!-- [som bara Greta f\u00e5r syssla med]--> <strong>because it makes these activists sad<\/strong>?<br \/>\n* I don&#8217;t want to mock a 16 year old girl, it&#8217;s important though to see what the adults are <!-- using-->doing to get their own agendas through.<br \/>\n* These <strong>appeals to sympathy and victimization in order to forward their agenda<\/strong>&#8230; which might be urgent, but the politics of urgency backfire unless you have utter authoritarian rule. And if you want to gain utter authoritarian rule you can&#8217;t complain that you&#8217;re sad and that people should just agree with you.<!-- That's not gonna work.--><\/p>\n<h3>Vilket m\u00e5l har de som kritiserar Greta-organisationen?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; That&#8217;s of course what they&#8230; they want, that is <strong>their goal of these attacks<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u00c4r det ot\u00e4nkbart f\u00f6r Greta att m\u00e5let ist\u00e4llet \u00e4r att f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka st\u00e4lla tillr\u00e4tta de problem Greta skapar? Eller att diskutera bristande kunskap och intelligens bland aktivister?<\/span><\/p>\n<h3>\u00c4r kritikernas m\u00e5l att sl\u00f6sa bort Gretas tid?<\/h3>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; So I just&#8230; and the other activists who support&#8230; we support each other, we just have to <strong>comfort each other and just to be there for each other and say like; don&#8217;t care about these people<\/strong>. Because they&#8230; all they are doing is to&#8230; <strong>their goal is to waste your time<\/strong> and to make you tired of this and to make you stop <strong>because what you are doing is actually good<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Red&#8217;s kom:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">V\u00e4ldigt &#8221;<em>svamligt<\/em>&#8221; i Gretas svar, men hur kan n\u00e5gon sl\u00f6sa bort n\u00e5gon annans tid p\u00e5 sociala medier? K\u00e4nner man att ens tid sl\u00f6sas bort s\u00e5 \u00e4r det bara att titta bort, och vips \u00e4r problemet l\u00f6st.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>* So there&#8217;s no available room space in her way of thinking to <strong>examine whether or not her actions are good or bad or what results those actions will have<\/strong>.<!-- That is no longer science.--> She&#8217;s not acting in a scientific way based on observation, based on her critique. <!--* It's funny how Democracy Now is framing this behind Greta, with the word \"democracy\" in very small letters and \"now\" in very big letters, behind her.--><\/p>\n<p>* <strong>Their means of activism is to claim science, claim victimhood and then to force people to act right now, or to just ignore everybody that has any criticism.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Ingen brist p\u00e5 hycklare som Michael Moore&#8230; och Skavlan:<\/span><br \/>\n<!--<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W6C3KAVzkkY\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\"><\/span><\/iframe>-->[Videoklipp h\u00e4r har censurerats bort av Youtube]<\/p>\n<h3>Vad \u00e4r &#8221;klimatr\u00e4ttvisa&#8221;?<\/h3>\n<p>* They have a secret agenda behind that and it&#8217;s called &#8221;<em>climate justice<\/em>&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">&gt;&gt; Talk about the issue of <strong>climate justice<\/strong> and what that means to you, Greta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">&#8211; I mean you can explain it in different ways but an incredibly important thing is that those who have caused the <strong>climate crisis<\/strong> the most are those who often are going to be the least affected. And the opposite, those who have contributed the least are most likely the ones to be most affected. And therefore <strong>we must make sure that<\/strong>&#8230; that of course&#8230; that <strong>we can help these people and that it is not so unfair and everything<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Att barn exploateras av skrupell\u00f6sa personer verkar bara bli allt vanligare:<\/span><br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/vP7yzPRDWQ0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<h3>Konklusion<\/h3>\n<p>* So this potent coctail of knowing that they&#8217;re right<!-- already of that knowing that-->, any sort of criticism is out the gate, unwarranted or unnecessary for them. Then thinking that the science is basically settled, that observation is basically ended. It&#8217;s time for action and the action has to happen right now <span style=\"color: #800000;\">[utan eftertanke och utan n\u00e5gon plan]<\/span>.<br \/>\nThen, married to that, this equity mindset of thinking that they have the capacity of looking at the world, and of righting the wrongs, and then<!--, furthermore of--> redistributing resources, whether it&#8217;s moral or environmental or whatever.<\/p>\n<p>* All that together leads to the opposite of democracy. <strong>It leads to a demand right now for obedience<!-- of-->. It leads to cutting people off who don&#8217;t obey you or who don&#8217;t agree with you.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* <!---And t-->That <strong>ends the ability to encounter the complex system<\/strong>. That is thinking that you can see the world as it is and that <strong>your decision of how to change the world is already mapped out<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>* All of that doesn&#8217;t seem to be grounded in <strong>a understanding of just how complex this situation is<\/strong>. <!--And n-->Not just the climate situation, but of <strong>getting people as a whole to work together to solve the problem<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>* The Dictator might be able to force people to do a certain action. But that dictator<!-- insofar as it is a dcitator--> is <strong>already cut off from all of the complexity that might lead to a better and more nuanced view, not only of the situation but also of how to solve it<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>* <strong>We have to not just stop using 16 year-olds to forming our agendas but also our 16 year old way of thinking to conceive of the problem and then to implement the solution.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>* <strong>When you start to step away from simplistic ways of viewing the world you will lose a lot of people. If you keep everything simple and polarized, then people are<!-- that--> much closer to action and reaction<\/strong>&#8230; and at least they&#8217;re doing something, right? Well,<!-- it might be the case of--> <strong>that form of action and reaction <!-- that-->might actually stall the sort of action that is needed going forward.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>K\u00e4lla:<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/sLfJ_0UK20k?start=58\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\">OBS!<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #800000;\">Greta Thunberg och hennes organisation sponsras nu av Tesla. Hon \u00e5kte till Iowa City i den elbil som Arnold Schwarzenegger hj\u00e4lpt till att fixa. Medierna \u00e4r kn\u00e4pptysta om vem som k\u00f6r bilen och vilka som \u00e5ker med i bilen ut\u00f6ver Greta.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000;\"><strong>ELEFANTEN I RUMMET<\/strong><br \/>\nBefolkningstillv\u00e4xten \u00e4r elefanten i rummet. Populisiska tal om klimatet kommer enbart att f\u00f6rv\u00e4rra situationen f\u00f6r alla. Om Greta verkligen velat g\u00f6ra nytta s\u00e5 skulle hon f\u00f6ra upp grunden till alla framtida problem &#8211; inkl. milj\u00f6n &#8211; och det som kommer att skapa kaos f\u00f6r henne och andra barn av idag:<\/span><br \/>\n<!--<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/N2rvCcagsaw\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>-->[Videoklipp h\u00e4r har censurerats bort av Youtube]<\/p>\n<p>F\u00f6r\u00e4lder tar ansvar f\u00f6r sitt barn och tar barn ur skolan f\u00f6r att inte hj\u00e4rntv\u00e4ttas om klimatf\u00f6r\u00e4ndringar:<br \/>\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CzJVuq9lcTk\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Se \u00e4ven bl a;<br \/>\n<a title=\"H\u00e4r avsl\u00f6jas TV4-nyheternas klimatpropaganda (2019-10-26)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/har-avslojas-tv4-nyheternas-klimatpropaganda\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>H\u00e4r avsl\u00f6jas TV4-nyheternas klimatpropaganda<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Expressen vill f\u00f6rl\u00f6jliga klimatrealister \u2013 Misslyckas! (2019-11-03)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/expressen-vill-forlojliga-klimatrealister-misslyckas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Expressen vill f\u00f6rl\u00f6jliga klimatrealister \u2013 Misslyckas!<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Den stora klimatbluffen \u2013 Expressens klimatkampanj (2019-11-06)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/den-stora-klimatbluffen-expressens-klimatkampanj\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Den stora klimatbluffen \u2013 Expressens klimatkampanj<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Klimatmodeller som politiska propagandaverktyg (2019-10-29)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/klimatmodeller-som-politiska-propagandaverktyg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Klimatmodeller som politiska propagandaverktyg<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Konsensus bland forskarna att m\u00e4nniskan orsakar klimatf\u00f6r\u00e4ndringar? (2019-10-31)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/konsensus-bland-forskarna-att-manniskan-orsakar-klimatforandringar\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Konsensus bland forskarna att m\u00e4nniskan orsakar klimatf\u00f6r\u00e4ndringar?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<hr width=\"100\" \/>\n<p><a title=\"500 forskare informerar FN att Greta Thunberg har fel om klimatet (2019-09-29)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/500-forskare-informerar-fn-att-greta-thunberg-har-fel-om-klimatet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>500 forskare informerar FN att Greta Thunberg har fel om klimatet<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"31 487 vetenskapsm\u00e4n dementerar global uppv\u00e4rmning (2019-10-15)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/31-487-vetenskapsman-dementerar-global-uppvarmning\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>31 487 vetenskapsm\u00e4n dementerar global uppv\u00e4rmning<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"171 'forskare' kr\u00e4ver att Sverige ska vara ledande i klimathysterin (2019-10-10)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/171-forskare-kraver-att-sverige-ska-vara-ledande-i-klimathysterin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>171 \u201dforskare\u201d kr\u00e4ver att Sverige ska vara ledande i klimathysterin<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"190 forskare uppmanar till civil olydnad enligt Extinction Rebellion \u2013 Lista med namn (2019-10-16)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/190-forskare-uppmanar-till-civil-olydnad-enligt-extinction-rebellion-lista-med-namn\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>190 (eller 1 000?) forskare uppmanar till civil olydnad enligt Extinction Rebellion \u2013 Lista med namn<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Extinction Rebellion: 21 000 forskare h\u00e4vdar att jorden g\u00e5r under pga klimatet (2019-10-16)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/extinction-rebellion-21-000-forskare-havdar-att-jorden-gar-under-pga-klimatet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Extinction Rebellion: 21 000 forskare h\u00e4vdar att jorden g\u00e5r under pga klimatet<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<hr width=\"100\" \/>\n<p><a title=\"FN anlitar \u00e5ter barnarbetare; Greta, Brittany och Severn Suzuki (2019-09-23)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/fn-anlitar-ater-barnarbetare-greta-brittany-och-severn-suzuki\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>FN anlitar \u00e5ter barnarbetare; Greta, Brittany och Severn Suzuki<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Analys av Greta Thunbergs fatalistiska tal \u2013 Jordens underg\u00e5ng 2030? (2019-10-04)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/analys-av-greta-thunbergs-fatalistiska-tal-jordens-undergang-2030\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Analys av Greta Thunbergs fatalistiska tal \u2013 Jordens underg\u00e5ng 2030?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Greta\/klimataktivister kan inte skilja mellan klimat, v\u00e4der och milj\u00f6 (2019-10-07)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-klimataktivister-kan-inte-skilja-mellan-klimat-vader-och-miljo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Greta\/klimataktivister kan inte skilja mellan klimat, v\u00e4der och milj\u00f6<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Greta Thunberg m\u00f6ter motst\u00e5nd i Kanada \u2013 Avsl\u00f6jande om Gretas Tesla (2019-10-20)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunberg-moter-motstand-i-kanada-avslojande-om-gretas-tesla\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Greta Thunberg m\u00f6ter motst\u00e5nd i Kanada \u2013 Avsl\u00f6jande om Gretas Tesla<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Klimatsp\u00e5domar innan Greta Thunberg om jordens underg\u00e5ng (2019-10-12)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/klimatspadomar-innan-greta-thunberg-om-jordens-undergang\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Klimatsp\u00e5domar innan Greta Thunberg om jordens underg\u00e5ng<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Greta Thunbergs klimatstrejkande v\u00e4nner har n\u00e5got gemensamt (2019-10-02)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunbergs-klimatstrejkande-vanner-har-nagot-gemensamt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Greta Thunbergs klimatstrejkande v\u00e4nner har n\u00e5got gemensamt<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Greta Thunbergs anh\u00e4ngare Extinction Rebellion vill skapa kaos (2019-10-14)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunbergs-anhangare-extinction-rebellion-vill-skapa-kaos\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Greta Thunbergs anh\u00e4ngare Extinction Rebellion vill skapa kaos<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Extinction Rebellion \u2013 En subversiv religi\u00f6s klimatsekt (2019-10-15)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/extinction-rebellion-en-subversiv-religios-klimatsekt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Extinction Rebellion \u2013 En subversiv religi\u00f6s klimatsekt<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Anarkisterna i Extinction Rebellion st\u00f6rs ut (2019-10-18)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/anarkisterna-i-extinction-rebellion-stors-ut\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anarkisterna i Extinction Rebellion st\u00f6rs ut \ud83d\ude42<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Motst\u00e5ndet mot klimatextremisterna i Extinction Rebellion v\u00e4xer (2019-10-19)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/motstandet-mot-klimatextremisterna-i-extinction-rebellion-vaxer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Motst\u00e5ndet mot klimatextremisterna i Extinction Rebellion v\u00e4xer<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"En starstruck Schwarzenegger h\u00f6g n\u00e4r han pratar om Greta Thunberg (2019-10-09)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/en-starstruck-schwarzenegger-hog-nar-han-pratar-om-greta-thunberg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>En starstruck Schwarzenegger h\u00f6g n\u00e4r han pratar om Greta Thunberg<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Alternativa nobelpriset g\u00e5r till\u2026 Greta Thunberg (2019-09-29)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/alternativa-nobelpriset-gar-till-greta-thunberg\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Alternativa nobelpriset g\u00e5r till\u2026 Greta Thunberg<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Vad \u00e4r st\u00f6dnumret till klimataktivisternas hj\u00e4lplinje? (2019-09-30)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/vad-ar-stodnumret-till-klimataktivisternas-hjalplinje\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vad \u00e4r st\u00f6dnumret till klimataktivisternas hj\u00e4lplinje?<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Greta Thunberg s\u00e4ger att hennes strategi \u00e4r att skuldbel\u00e4gga andra (2019-10-21)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunberg-sager-att-hennes-strategi-ar-att-skuldbelagga-andra\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Greta Thunberg s\u00e4ger att hennes strategi \u00e4r att skuldbel\u00e4gga andra<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"UNICEF och media uts\u00e4tter Greta Thunberg f\u00f6r barnmisshandel (2019-09-28)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/unicef-och-media-utsatter-greta-thunberg-for-barnmisshandel\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>UNICEF och media uts\u00e4tter Greta Thunberg f\u00f6r barnmisshandel<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<hr width=\"100\" \/>\n<p><a title=\"Har Milj\u00f6partiet, Greta och Public Service r\u00e4tt fokus? (2019-09-10)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/har-miljopartiet-greta-och-public-service-ratt-fokus\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Har Milj\u00f6partiet, Greta och Public Service r\u00e4tt fokus?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Milj\u00f6partiets plastskatt f\u00f6r dem som inte sl\u00e4pper ut plast i haven (2019-09-20)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/miljopartiets-plastskatt-for-dem-som-inte-slapper-ut-plast-i-haven\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Milj\u00f6partiets plastskatt f\u00f6r dem som inte sl\u00e4pper ut plast i haven<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Fatemeh Khavari s\u00f6ker desperat efter publicitet (2018-08-23)\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/fatemeh-khavari-soker-desperat-efter-publicitet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fatemeh Khavari s\u00f6ker desperat efter publicitet<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>F\u00f6r sidor om media, asylpolitik och integration se <a style=\"color: #008000;\" title=\"Medias makt, asylpolitik, migration och integration. Klicka h\u00e4r f\u00f6r att lista alla sidor om Sveriges invandringspolitik och medias monopol\" href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/hotpot_politik_titlar_migration.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">inneh\u00e5llsregistret<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/Alternativa_sajter.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lista \u00f6ver alternativa k\u00e4llor<\/a><\/p>\n<style>.fb_iframe_widget span{width:460px !important;} .fb_iframe_widget iframe {margin: 0 !important;}        .fb_edge_comment_widget { display: none !important; }<\/style><div style=\"width:100%; text-align:left\"><div class=\"fb-like\" style=\"width:65px; overflow: hidden !important; \" data-href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunberg-silkesvantar-av\/\" data-size=\"small\" data-colorscheme=\"dark\" data-width=\"65\" data-layout=\"box_count\" data-action=\"like\" data-show-faces=\"true\" data-share=\"true\" kid_directed_site=\"false\"><\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nedanst\u00e5ende \u00e4r synnerligen viktigt med tanke p\u00e5 den st\u00e4ndiga diskussionen om att Greta Thunberg inte kan eller f\u00e5r kritiseras pga hennes \u00e5lder och autism, etc, och med tanke p\u00e5 vilka stora negativa konsekvenser Greta-organisationen och hennes f\u00f6ljare kan f\u00e5 f\u00f6r alla parter. F\u00f6rst g\u00f6mmer sig ett inte s\u00e5 litet antal m\u00e4nniskor bakom Greta Thunberg (d\u00e4r &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/greta-thunberg-silkesvantar-av\/\" class=\"more-link\">Forts\u00e4tt l\u00e4sa <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Greta Thunberg &#8211; Silkesvantar av<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[172],"tags":[1576,1578,1491,1593,1579,1292],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35895"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35895"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35895\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":38547,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35895\/revisions\/38547"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35895"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35895"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hotpot.se\/politik\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35895"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}